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helwen ([personal profile] helwen) wrote2012-06-11 09:30 am
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Gardening thoughts

So one of the things I got out of working a full day at Goldthread was that working on the ground, even raised beds, was physically way too challenging. Raised beds are higher but you can't necessarily get closer to the plants because these had soil sides instead of boards so they're wider at the bottom than at the top. So I was thinking, wouldn't it be nice to have tables instead? L and I were talking about it at a later date, and figured that for all plants that were smaller than a bush or tree, this could work. Make the tops of the tables be wood frame with hardware cloth on them (drainage) and shaded on the sides. Put your pots/flats on top and mushroom logs underneath. Depending on number of tables you'd also have tool storage space underneath.

I favor the idea of getting/building large flats rather than using small pots because if you have a hot summer the roots will get baked pretty quickly in a small pot. You really need mass to protect your plants. Although with a frame you could also attach posts and put up shade cloth as needed as well... and if it was a really wet summer you could up up a solid cover to give the plants a break from getting rained on for a day or so.

Thought needs to be given to what you're going to grow -- for instance some plants need to go deep, so a table for them would be shorter than for plants that don't need quite as much soil -- otherwise you'd be reaching up to weed. So tomatoes would be on a lower table, and lettuce would be on a higher one.

The other reason I think large flats would be good is that it would be easier to mix in compost and other amendments.

Today I also toyed with the idea of a slanted surface -- only a few tiers (1' deep) and not as deep as a table (3'), but might be handy for sheltering say a cart or similar height item. Just a thought on maximizing small acreage.

[identity profile] embermwe.livejournal.com 2012-06-11 02:10 pm (UTC)(link)
These are many of the same thoughts I was having when considering building raised beds for our small gardening area in the future to maximize area usage and ease of care. I actually started to write a post on this yesterday, after putting in a few more veggie plants in the container garden we have, but LJ burped, and it was lost, and I didn't have the patience yet to rewrite it.

Thanks for sharing, and for being a mind reader..
Edited 2012-06-11 14:15 (UTC)

[identity profile] helwen.livejournal.com 2012-06-11 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Too funny! Great minds think alike? ;)

[identity profile] zaduzbina.livejournal.com 2012-06-11 02:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I have two garden tables on my porch. They are four feet highx 5 feet longx 3 feetwide.

I have tomatoes, peppers,onions.carrots,fennel,lettuce. mint,garlic,peas,beans,chives,shallots,spinach, and melons growing.

I love it. Total cost of build was $50 .

And I have storage space under them.
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[identity profile] embermwe.livejournal.com 2012-06-11 02:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you willing to share pics and or plans of these?
I am in the throes of planning out such adaptations to my gardening space for next year and it might be a HUGE help to me in planning and visualization!!

[identity profile] helwen.livejournal.com 2012-06-11 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Sounds wonderful!

Hmm

[identity profile] bytchearse.livejournal.com 2012-06-11 02:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm seeing scrap pallets on short stilts as the "table tops". Cheap to free, sturdy, ventilated underneath, and a convenient size for one pallet per crop.

JMHO/IMBFOS ;-D

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[identity profile] loosecanon.livejournal.com 2012-06-11 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
most pallets are chemically treated to cut down on pest infestations and fungi

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[identity profile] helwen.livejournal.com 2012-06-11 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Are the chemicals harmful to people?

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[identity profile] loosecanon.livejournal.com 2012-06-12 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
I would not feel comfortable with them in proximity to my food.
We do not burn pallets, they stink and give funny colors.

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[identity profile] fitzw.livejournal.com 2012-06-12 01:14 pm (UTC)(link)
We have burned pallets, and I've never seen funny colors from the ones that we have. Odd.

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[identity profile] helwen.livejournal.com 2012-06-13 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Different source?

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[identity profile] helwen.livejournal.com 2012-06-11 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Might be okay for short-term, but I'd prefer the hardware cloth (metal), as a longer-term solution.

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[identity profile] embermwe.livejournal.com 2012-06-12 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
We have several of these in our current container garden, and have had very good luck with them.
http://www.earthbox.com/EarthBox-Container-Gardening-System-Green/productinfo/1010264/
They would be easy to put up on tables to make raised beds, I think. Our neighbor used to have them up on tables for his tomatoes.

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[identity profile] helwen.livejournal.com 2012-06-12 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Looks good!